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Good morning.  I'm not sure I am using the term "vertical" correctly here.  We are looking to replace an ancient wrap around case packer (Park Place).  I need some guidance as to who might make this type of equipment or at least the proper name.  The ​​flat box comes into the machine, cans are pushed onto it, the case is "wrapped" then it is taken straight up a belt conveyance system along the way being glued and held while it sets. The case is then pushed onto a horizontal conveyor on the upper level where it goes on to it's next steps.

Thoughts, suggestions?

Thanks,
Laura

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Laura Strutz
Sr. Packaging Engineer
PPG Architectural Coatings
Cranberry Twp PA
(724) 742-5565
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Original Message------

Good morning.  I'm not sure I am using the term "vertical" correctly here.  We are looking to replace an ancient wrap around case packer (Park Place).  I need some guidance as to who might make this type of equipment or at least the proper name.  The ​​flat box comes into the machine, cans are pushed onto it, the case is "wrapped" then it is taken straight up a belt conveyance system along the way being glued and held while it sets. The case is then pushed onto a horizontal conveyor on the upper level where it goes on to it's next steps.

Thoughts, suggestions?

Thanks,
Laura

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Laura Strutz
Sr. Packaging Engineer
PPG Architectural Coatings
Cranberry Twp PA
(724) 742-5565
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Thanks, Suzanne!​

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Laura Strutz
Sr. Packaging Engineer
PPG Architectural Coatings
Cranberry Twp PA
(724) 742-5565
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Original Message:
Sent: 10-17-2019 00:15
From: Suzanne Fisher
Subject: Vertical Case Packer

Combi -

Reach out to LaShonna Gojkov.  Hope you're well, Laura!

suzanne fisher, CPP
Associate Director, Packaging Innovation

WAYFAIR

1405 Worldwide Blvd
Hebron, KY 41048
United States
C: 616-916-8025

sfisher1@wayfair.com

Original Message------

Good morning.  I'm not sure I am using the term "vertical" correctly here.  We are looking to replace an ancient wrap around case packer (Park Place).  I need some guidance as to who might make this type of equipment or at least the proper name.  The ​​flat box comes into the machine, cans are pushed onto it, the case is "wrapped" then it is taken straight up a belt conveyance system along the way being glued and held while it sets. The case is then pushed onto a horizontal conveyor on the upper level where it goes on to it's next steps.

Thoughts, suggestions?

Thanks,
Laura

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Laura Strutz
Sr. Packaging Engineer
PPG Architectural Coatings
Cranberry Twp PA
(724) 742-5565
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Hi Laura,
Hope all is well.  You are correct with your terminology.  Harpak-ULMA offers different options based on several variables.  I believe you have worked with Joey Schmidt in the past on different projects.  He can help you navigate through your options.  We hope to be  consideration for your solution.  joeyschmidt@harpak-ulma.com.  You can also visit our secondary packaging page listed here.  https://www.harpak-ulma.com/packaging-solutions/automation/secondary-packaging/  Good luck!
Heidi Harlfinger

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Heidi Harlfinger CPP
VP Marketing
Harpak-ULMA Packaging, LLC
Taunton MA
(508) 884-2500
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Original Message:
Sent: 10-17-2019 00:15
From: Suzanne Fisher
Subject: Vertical Case Packer

Combi -

Reach out to LaShonna Gojkov.  Hope you're well, Laura!

suzanne fisher, CPP
Associate Director, Packaging Innovation

WAYFAIR

1405 Worldwide Blvd
Hebron, KY 41048
United States
C: 616-916-8025

sfisher1@wayfair.com

Original Message------

Good morning.  I'm not sure I am using the term "vertical" correctly here.  We are looking to replace an ancient wrap around case packer (Park Place).  I need some guidance as to who might make this type of equipment or at least the proper name.  The ​​flat box comes into the machine, cans are pushed onto it, the case is "wrapped" then it is taken straight up a belt conveyance system along the way being glued and held while it sets. The case is then pushed onto a horizontal conveyor on the upper level where it goes on to it's next steps.

Thoughts, suggestions?

Thanks,
Laura

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Laura Strutz
Sr. Packaging Engineer
PPG Architectural Coatings
Cranberry Twp PA
(724) 742-5565
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Original Message------

Good morning.  I'm not sure I am using the term "vertical" correctly here.  We are looking to replace an ancient wrap around case packer (Park Place).  I need some guidance as to who might make this type of equipment or at least the proper name.  The ​​flat box comes into the machine, cans are pushed onto it, the case is "wrapped" then it is taken straight up a belt conveyance system along the way being glued and held while it sets. The case is then pushed onto a horizontal conveyor on the upper level where it goes on to it's next steps.

Thoughts, suggestions?

Thanks,
Laura

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Laura Strutz
Sr. Packaging Engineer
PPG Architectural Coatings
Cranberry Twp PA
(724) 742-5565
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John Chomistek
CPS Consulting
Transforming your packaging to deliver great products
Cell: 214-695-1099
jchomistek@sbcglobal.net
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Original Message:
Sent: 10-16-2019 11:08
From: Laura Strutz
Subject: Vertical Case Packer

Good morning.  I'm not sure I am using the term "vertical" correctly here.  We are looking to replace an ancient wrap around case packer (Park Place).  I need some guidance as to who might make this type of equipment or at least the proper name.  The ​​flat box comes into the machine, cans are pushed onto it, the case is "wrapped" then it is taken straight up a belt conveyance system along the way being glued and held while it sets. The case is then pushed onto a horizontal conveyor on the upper level where it goes on to it's next steps.

Thoughts, suggestions?

Thanks,
Laura

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Laura Strutz
Sr. Packaging Engineer
PPG Architectural Coatings
Cranberry Twp PA
(724) 742-5565
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Original Message------

Laura, if you are looking for a new piece of equipment, a company that I have used before is Douglas.  They make a wrap around case packer and other packaging equipment.  Their website is:  douglas-machine.com.  Their phone number is:  320-763-6587.

Hope that works for you.  Let me know if you need any other assistance.

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John Chomistek
CPS Consulting
Transforming your packaging to deliver great products
Cell: 214-695-1099
jchomistek@sbcglobal.net
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Laura,
   If you are trying to get rid of the wrap around case configuration, unfortunately you will have to buy three new pieces of equipment: A case erector, a case packer, and a final taper (besides conveyors and such).  It sounds like you are packaging steel cans.  IMO the wrap around case can be the best option since your product most likely can fully support any load it sees.  It might make sense to just upgrade the machine.  In my most recent position we still utilized a very old cold glue wrap around machine for sturdy tubs of hand cleaner.  That being said, we also replaced several outdated RSC case erectors with Combi machines with great success.  Some of their machines have size limitations so if you plan to pack different container sizes on the same line, make sure it can go as small or as large as you need.  While we had a couple drop packers still in use, we configured several robotic pick and place packers for better product handling.

Tom

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Tom Polatas
Packaging Engineer
Kent OH
(330) 524-8037
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Original Message:
Sent: 10-16-2019 11:08
From: Laura Strutz
Subject: Vertical Case Packer

Good morning.  I'm not sure I am using the term "vertical" correctly here.  We are looking to replace an ancient wrap around case packer (Park Place).  I need some guidance as to who might make this type of equipment or at least the proper name.  The ​​flat box comes into the machine, cans are pushed onto it, the case is "wrapped" then it is taken straight up a belt conveyance system along the way being glued and held while it sets. The case is then pushed onto a horizontal conveyor on the upper level where it goes on to it's next steps.

Thoughts, suggestions?

Thanks,
Laura

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Laura Strutz
Sr. Packaging Engineer
PPG Architectural Coatings
Cranberry Twp PA
(724) 742-5565
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Tom, no I am not trying to change the box. The issue is that most case packers I see take the finished case out ​a horizontal conveyor.  Ours goes straight up.  Because the line was basically built around this, I have no room to go out, must go up, lest we need to make major changes to the line.

Thanks,
Laura

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Laura Strutz
Sr. Packaging Engineer
PPG Architectural Coatings
Cranberry Twp PA
(724) 742-5565
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Original Message:
Sent: 10-17-2019 10:04
From: Tom Polatas
Subject: Vertical Case Packer

Laura,
   If you are trying to get rid of the wrap around case configuration, unfortunately you will have to buy three new pieces of equipment: A case erector, a case packer, and a final taper (besides conveyors and such).  It sounds like you are packaging steel cans.  IMO the wrap around case can be the best option since your product most likely can fully support any load it sees.  It might make sense to just upgrade the machine.  In my most recent position we still utilized a very old cold glue wrap around machine for sturdy tubs of hand cleaner.  That being said, we also replaced several outdated RSC case erectors with Combi machines with great success.  Some of their machines have size limitations so if you plan to pack different container sizes on the same line, make sure it can go as small or as large as you need.  While we had a couple drop packers still in use, we configured several robotic pick and place packers for better product handling.

Tom

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Tom Polatas
Packaging Engineer
Kent OH
(330) 524-8037

Original Message:
Sent: 10-16-2019 11:08
From: Laura Strutz
Subject: Vertical Case Packer

Good morning.  I'm not sure I am using the term "vertical" correctly here.  We are looking to replace an ancient wrap around case packer (Park Place).  I need some guidance as to who might make this type of equipment or at least the proper name.  The ​​flat box comes into the machine, cans are pushed onto it, the case is "wrapped" then it is taken straight up a belt conveyance system along the way being glued and held while it sets. The case is then pushed onto a horizontal conveyor on the upper level where it goes on to it's next steps.

Thoughts, suggestions?

Thanks,
Laura

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Laura Strutz
Sr. Packaging Engineer
PPG Architectural Coatings
Cranberry Twp PA
(724) 742-5565
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